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Noticed from the live gigs that there are a few times when the 'proper endings' to the songs are missed by some(not all!) fans.
EG 1 Joey - ends with 'joey won't you please come home' etc, though this is not on the record.
EG 2 Banana Republic- should end with 'how many rivers to cross before I find my way home ?
Eg 3 Someone's Looking At You - should end with 'On a night like this I deserve to get kissed( or p****) at least once or twice.
EG 4 Close As You'll Ever Be-Not an improper ending but the long break in the song that some misconstrue as the song having ended.
Eg 5 I Don't Like Mondays- long pregnant pause sometimes mistaken as end of song, before song continues
All these false endings sometimes makes live performances a bit funny. I'm sure it happens with all bands but I could not fail to notice all the mistimed clapping before the songs had properly finished. Not necessarily a big deal but must be a little annoying for Bob and the band.
I've also spotted this on live recordings. Looking after no. 1 and Talking in Code spring to mind. Also Rat Trap often ends live with what some see as a nursery rhyme-ish tinkling of around 14 piano notes after the sax ending which is the point many start cheering and clapping.
I've also spotted this on live recordings. Looking after no. 1 and Talking in Code spring to mind. Also Rat Trap often ends live with what some see as a nursery rhyme-ish tinkling of around 14 piano notes after the sax ending which is the point many start cheering and clapping.
yes Mark my sample was just off the top of my head. Some, like missing the 'I'm gonna be like me' or 'On a night like this I'm gonna get kissed...' might rank as 'unforgivable' for any knowledgeable fan. Maybe 'curb your enthusiasm' would have been a better subject title but as usual inspiration always comes late.
On the other hand people pay for their tickets so they can clap whenever they like.Maybe some fans are just so eager they can't contain themselves. Again it's probably a widespread music phenomenon- though it did seem to happen with every second song at Cheltenham.
Eg 5 I Don't Like Mondays- long pregnant pause sometimes mistaken as end of song, before song continues
The pause after 'the lesson today is how to die' line was used to superb dramatic effect at Live Aid, so poignant to the moment. However, at Rats gigs I don't understand why Bob persists with this break. It's a moment that needs silence and quiet thought but inevitably brings cheers and claps - from those who think the song's finished. I guess given his recent family losses its become pertinent again to him, but I'd prefer just cracking on with the song.
Another Piece of Red draws early claps after the initial few notes on the piano on the live version on the reissues - but I reckon this was a case of mistaken identity, thinking it was the start of Mondays.
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Eg 5 I Don't Like Mondays- long pregnant pause sometimes mistaken as end of song, before song continues
The pause after 'the lesson today is how to die' line was used to superb dramatic effect at Live Aid, so poignant to the moment. However, at Rats gigs I don't understand why Bob persists with this break. It's a moment that needs silence and quiet thought but inevitably brings cheers and claps - from those who think the song's finished. I guess given his recent family losses its become pertinent again to him, but I'd prefer just cracking on with the song.
Another Piece of Red draws early claps after the initial few notes on the piano on the live version on the reissues - but I reckon this was a case of mistaken identity, thinking it was the start of Mondays.
Sometimes people have had a few drinks and then it's even harder to know where a song starts and ends. Again all the stop starts make the records more appealing to me. I've never heard any Rats song live that sounds better live if you go head to head, as it were, with the recorded version, well very few anyway.
BTW The start of Another Piece Of Red is Rule Britannia.
The pause after 'the lesson today is how to die' line was used to superb dramatic effect at Live Aid, so poignant to the moment. However, at Rats gigs I don't understand why Bob persists with this break. It's a moment that needs silence and quiet thought but inevitably brings cheers and claps - from those who think the song's finished. I guess given his recent family losses its become pertinent again to him, but I'd prefer just cracking on with the song.
I don't like the "dramatic" pause myself. I think it just sounds wrong somehow - and open to getting an inappropriate reaction from members of the crowd. Just makes me feel awkward and want the song to carry on ...
But yes, I have been guilty of thinking a song has ended and started to clap too soon! Especially after a few drinks
By studying the songs really diligently and getting to know them properly, with care and attention you can avoid this condition Noel.
In other words, if you're safe, you can avoid the clap under discussion
I remember pOssibly back in the early eighties the Red Tops used to have ads for sex shops, and one of their products was 'stud delay cream'. What a great name for a product! Maybe I'm easily amused.
