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I notice most Rats/Geldof fans tend to be a bit older than me (15) so you've probably been to see more bands than me n i was just wondering who you've seen n feel free to say a bit about it.
Me:
Red Hot Chili Peppers at Hyde Park 20/06/04 - was great at the time but i now find their music very boring
Green Day at Manchester 29/01/05 - brilliant, my first GD show and possibly my fave so far
Green Day at Milton Keynes 18/06/05 - great but extremely warm and dehydrating, the show was awesome though
Green Day at Milton Keynes 19/06/05 - ""
Maximo Park at Scarborough 21/07/05 - Awesome, nice n small which is cool n me n my friends also went to a signing in hmv that day n got some singles signed by them
Have a read on this section Jodie and you'll see who I've seen over the past month or so.
I wanted to see the Red Hot Chilli Peppers last year but was ill and couldn't manage to stand for several hours I think it was you who got me into Green Day, I'd never taken much notice before but you mentioned them or it was on your website or something and I downloaded some of their music. They are excellent!
I'm several multiples of 15, and I couldn't recall every show I've been to if I tried.
I've been busy this summer, though. Sting (froze my ass off!), U2 twice (a container of COBL confetti sits on top of my monitor), Tom Petty (I may have to see every tour from now on until they stop), John Fogerty/John Mellencamp (where I learned that I really wasn't much of a Mellencamp fan, and I have a lot of questions about the function of a rhythm section in a rock band courtesy of the Fogerty experience), Queen Latifah/Jill Scott/Erykah Badu (where I fell in love with Jill but had my doubts about Erykah...the Queen was, well, the Queen), Ozomatli (amazing), David Gray (why wear a suit onstage when it's sweltering in the venue? interesting for all the switching of piano and guitar among band members and within songs...also I love his drummer), Patti Smith (ROCKED!! last night).
Upcoming are most likely Kurtis Blow, Chuck Brown (both are free shows), and possibly Matisyahu and Royskopp (neither are free). Oh, and U2 at least another 3 times (have tickets in hand for 3 shows, there are a total of 7 in the city - so I'll probably end up at more).
If you are not just talking recent - well, seeing as I'm very nearly 40 a fair few more than Jodie
Here's a few:
BTRs Thin Lizzy ABC Culture Club The Levellers The Buzzcocks Madness Duran Duran Paul Young Elvis Costello Depeche Mode Tears for Fears Human League U2 Beautiful South Elkie Brookes Madonna Elton John and Eric Clapton Phil Collins Lime House Lizzy (Thin Lizzy tribute band) and loads more
I'm sure there are others but I can't remember any more. Going to see James Blunt in February at Brixton and I want Fran's U2 tickets, lol! and I'm still hoping to see Damien Rice.
I notice most Rats/Geldof fans tend to be a bit older than me (15) so you've probably been to see more bands than me n i was just wondering who you've seen n feel free to say a bit about it. Me: Red Hot Chili Peppers at Hyde Park 20/06/04 - was great at the time but i now find their music very boring Green Day at Manchester 29/01/05 - brilliant, my first GD show and possibly my fave so far Green Day at Milton Keynes 18/06/05 - great but extremely warm and dehydrating, the show was awesome though Green Day at Milton Keynes 19/06/05 - "" Maximo Park at Scarborough 21/07/05 - Awesome, nice n small which is cool n me n my friends also went to a signing in hmv that day n got some singles signed by them Coming up i've got: My Chemical Romance at Newcastle 07/11/05 Maximo Park in Dec hopefully EDIT: YES I AM GOING TO MAXIMO Your turn... -- Edited by Jodie at 20:40, 2005-08-05
The First
Wings - Wembley (1978) - Dad took me & sister along to their Back to the Egg concert because our Uncle got us freebies (he worked there). Incredible how loud it was, and if I only knew then how rare it was to see McCartney up close I'd have appreciated it more! Ended up backstage at the after gig party with loads of celebs. Uncle was amazed me and sis were so non-plussed like we did it all tht time. We thought that's what happened all the time!
The Rats
1979 - Rainbow - Knew someone on the door who got us in. (sssh, don't tell Bob, he'll want the money). Stood on balcony, and the Rats were great. Noticed a strange unfamiliar aroma at the gog (marajuana in fact). Had the noughts & crosses set and they ended up climbing all over it. Best gig until about 1990!
1980 - Hamm Odeon - Went to Hammersmith to queue for tickets the morning they went on sale, and disappointingly just walked up to the Box Office and got my ticket. Got right down the front, and had Geldof giving me a thumbs up for knowing Someone's Looking from the intro, and a depreciiating comment after I gave him teh finger during Keep It Up. Ended up dehydrated, and desperately looking for a drink ended up paying £2 for a lemonade in a pub in Finsbury Park.
We're talking about first shows? I think my first was Arlo Guthrie / Judy Collins in 1970.
Others (in no particular order whatsoever): Joan Baez, Pete Seeger, Bob Dylan, The Who (too late - in 86 or so), The Stones (1979 & 1982), The Grateful Dead (several times, I was dating a DeadHead - but latest would be the mid 70s), Jethro Tull, Phil Collins (the stage power died at the critical moment of "In The Air Tonight", he stormed off stage, PISSED as hell), New Riders of the Purple Sage, Frank Zappa (twice), Joni Mitchell (several times), James Taylor (probably several times, most notable was the night after he married Carly Simon and he brought her onstage), Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Crosby, Stills & Nash (several times), Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young (several times), Neil Young (solo) (I might well have seen Steve Stills solo, and Crosby and Nash as a duo, too), Simon & Garfunkel, Paul Simon (solo, several times) (and yes, I was at the Concerts in the Park), The Allman Brothers (several times), The Black Crowes, Bonnie Raitt (several times), Hot Tuna, Harold Melvin & The Bluenotes, The John Pizzarelli Trio, Mavis Staples, File, Celia Cruz, Aretha Franklin, Patti LaBelle, Bruce Springsteen (at The Bottom Line), Dire Straits (at The Bottom Line), John Mayall, Aztec Two Step, Steve Goodman, Don McLean,The Moody Blues, Ani DiFranco, Joan Osborne, Jackson Browne, Earth, Wind & Fire, John Sebastian, Steve Winwood, Mel Torme, Cyndi Lauper, Cher, Little Feat, Jefferson Airplane.
I'm sure I'll remember more.
Deeply regret never seeing Frank Sinatra, Johnny Cash, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin or Ella Fitzgerald. (among others).
Phil Collins (the stage power died at the critical moment of "In The Air Tonight", he stormed off stage, PISSED as hell),
Thank heavens for small mercies! If only there had been a power cut in the midst of him recording all his records (and his films and his videos....)
That happened when I went to see Dodgy @ the 100 Club, the singer tried to just shout! And when the Strokes did Clampdown at Ally Pally. That must have been fated! (Strangely enough on the same night Geldof played Union Chapel nearby).
That happened when I went to see Dodgy @ the 100 Club, the singer tried to just shout! And when the Strokes did Clampdown at Ally Pally. That must have been fated! (Strangely enough on the same night Geldof played Union Chapel nearby).
And where were you ArrGee? At the Strokes show or Geldof? Lol.
Ocassionally people ask us what we do for a living when we're not bobbing about with Geldof. Well Tina is a musician and I do some journalism and music promotion. In the mid '80's to mid '90's I ran quite a successful music venue in Tamworth called The Rathole. It was based above a trandy wine-bar, Manhattans. But the upstairs was in severe need of attention. It was lamost derelict. But it was perfect for an indie/rock venue. Many of you will be too young to remember most of the bands that used to play there, and people like Franna and MJ probably won't have heard of many of these bands. But I am sure the elders among us, like Mark Boyle and Arrgee will remember this lot with fondness.
Bob Geldof and Band (never got to promote the Rats but have done shows with Bob and the band) Dr. Feelgood Ocean Colour Scene Echo & The Bunnymen Thousand Yard Stare Pop Will Eat Itself The Buzzcocks The Toy Dolls (Yes Mark, we had to put the show on at the Tamworth Arts Centre as Rathole was under refurbishment) The Cranberries Wolfsbane Teenage Fanclub Adorable Primal Scream The Primitives Manic Street Preachers (they cancelled on 2 ocassions) Zodiac Mindwarp Hawkwind Gay Bikers On Acid Thatcher On Acid Blythe Power The Wonder Stuff (one of Miles fave early venues) The Senseless Things Hugh Cornwall Midge Ure Tom Robinson - what a lovely man, like M & S sandwiches and Tina's sandwiches Cabaret Voltare Lush Mega City Four The Telescopes Martin Stephenson (just a great guy - so damn funny - off his tree) The Brilliant Corners Five Thirty The Soup Dragons Catherine Wheel Crazy Head Inspiral Carpets Midway Still Nutmeg Corner Shop Back to The Planet Radiohead The Tansads Pulp The Yogots Spiral Eye Lindisfarne The Strawbs Fairport Convention Dick Gaughin Pierre Bensusan (5 hour sound check - 1 man 1 guitar - no kidding) Show Of Hands Bert Jansch Chip Taylor - brilliant solo performer he's the guy that write Angel Of The Morning and Wild Thing - also the brother of Jon Voight (Tina swoons)
By the mid 90's I was getting too old for all this indie stuff so I started to run acoustic events. Still do that to this day. Ocassionally put on theatre productions.
I have really enjoyed this thread because it's brought back happy memories for me from my indie promoting days. I have just dug out My old records and forgot bands like:
The Candyskins Mighty Mighty St. Etienne Birdland Onion Head The Sandkings Ride Katydids
Only the die hard late '80's/'90's indie fans will remember most of these. I have just found an old contract. We paid the Wonder Stuff £50 and a case of beer. I ocassionally promoted a few comedy nights, Frank Skinner was a regular with us and again was £50 and a few beers. It really was quite a buzz promoting bands in their early stages and then watching them progress and 6 months later they mostly became darlings of the NME and Melody Maker.
Many ocassions, some quite well known bands who had already had front covers of the music press, played to some really small audiences. The Cranberries for instance, I think we had around 40 ish paying punters thats all. But Delores was great and the gig was great too.
There is a well known pub venue in London called the Hope & Anchor whihc U2 played twice. The gig room is extremely tiny, there is a plaque there giving the date when U2 played there. It tells you they played to an audience of 9. You wouldn't believe it would you?
ArrGee wrote: That happened when I went to see Dodgy @ the 100 Club, the singer tried to just shout! And when the Strokes did Clampdown at Ally Pally. That must have been fated! (Strangely enough on the same night Geldof played Union Chapel nearby). And where were you ArrGee? At the Strokes show or Geldof? Lol.
Obviously at the Strokes! Oddly enough, the two occassions I got closest to seeing Geldof solo have been in churches (Paradiso, Amsterdam/ Union Chapel, Islington) and both times I was thwarted, firstly by the odd policy of the Paradiso of having to be a member to get a ticket; VoL tour, but I rectified that in time to see the Happy Mondays, was close enough to see the red of their eyes. And then the Union Chapel one when as luck would have it I already had tickets for the Strokes. I was torn, never having seen the Strokes and Geldof doing the old Rats songs, but I figured that Geldof would be back at the Union Chapel someday (he won't because they don't do gigs anymore).
A potted history of The Rathole Ocassionally people ask us what we do for a living when we're not bobbing about with Geldof. Well Tina is a musician and I do some journalism and music promotion. In the mid '80's to mid '90's I ran quite a successful music venue in Tamworth called The Rathole. It was based above a trandy wine-bar, Manhattans. But the upstairs was in severe need of attention. It was lamost derelict. But it was perfect for an indie/rock venue.
And the Hope & Anchor is one of the great venues! Couldn't tell you who I ever heard there, none became famous! Did come across a few bands before they were famous like Marillion and the Fixx (big in US, not so much in UK), but they were at the nearby City University and Pulp and Dodgy at the even closer Garage [the more observant will note I spend a lot of time in Islington]. Rathole sounds a bit like the Garage! (though the trendy wine bars are down the road)
Must admit my one regret in all my gig going years was not to see Dr. Feelgood. I had the chance, but just didn't. And now poor Lee Brilleaux has gone, I never will see them (though a band with the same monicker exist, it's not the same). Nothing more impressive than a man smoking his way through a gig!
The smallest crowd I was ever at for a gig was for the Sweet in about 1983. They didn't turn up until gone midnight and most people had gone home, so there was only about 60-70 people left [City University again]. But it was like a stadium gig with the lighting rig and the pyrotechnics, and ended up being a really good night (though sadly the bar has shut at midnight).
Arrgee, for Christ's sake don't encourage Ian. He is driving me mad with his nostalgic nonsense. I remember that period of our life with trepidation. Not only did we promote the Rathole, but also other shows at varying venues in the midlands. The Hare & Hounds in Kings Heath, Birmingham, The Que club in Birmingham, Sinatra's in Birmingham, The Dial, The Wharehouse, and The Flowerpot in Derby. and the Wheatsheaf in Stoke.
Now just imagine this. Ian doesn't drive, he has a chauffer (Me), we get to the gigs, he can't do technical stuff either, but I can (so I do this too), he didn't like manning the door, so guess who did that. Some bands needed feeding (you've guessed it). Then at the end, when I have paid the bands and chucked them out, Ian strutted about like a f***ing sergeant major telling me and everyone how bloody good he is at this promoting thing.
Most of the bands as I recall were complete ****e. The Primitves were good, and Delores from the Cranberries was delightful, we got on very well. She came to see my pig (no a real one, not Ian, (although he is a pig too)). There was a band called Beef, with the female vocalist who looked as if she would kill anyone who crossed her path. But was really sweet.
I remember Ian's excitement, like a kid a Christmas when we had Corner Shop. I can honestly say that in the millions of gigs I have been to, they were probably the worst thing I ever saw. God only knows how they ever charted. They must be from a huge family that is all I can say.
Last night Ian spent three hours trying to remember other band names and trying to woo me with his knowledge - failed again.
I am putting my foot down now. Don't encourage him - ask him questions and beware, you will get the answers and its like War & Peace when he starts.
I have the wrath of Tina on my back Arrgee. I can't really remember that much details about the Pulp gig. At the time we had so many acts they all merged into one. It was like a conveyor belt. We used to do gigs all over, not just The Rathole. I think it may have been in Derby or the Que Club in Brum. I have a vague memory that it was about the time they had just got out of a restrictive contract with fire records. and seemed pleased just to be playing again.
The way we used to book the bands was just really by taking a look at the NME, Melody Maker etc... Next Big Thing columns and of course most of them were nothing of the sort. They just had their five minutes of indie fame.
We used to have bands on mainly who were on the up. But the one gig I vividly remember is the Primitives who were sadly on their way down, they had already had chart success with Crash. But because people knew who they were, the place was packed. The dressing room at The Rathole was at the back of the hall oposite the stage, Tracy Tracy had to make her way through the crowd with people pushing to get to her for a grope, she was surrounded by bouncers, it was quite scary for her, but they performed a fantastic show.
The Toy Dolls were another band we had after their success with novelty hit Nellie The Elephant. The Rathole was packed with pogoing punks all waiting to mosh to Nellie. Unfortunately the band do not play their biggest hit live, as they said it almost ruined their career. We had a lot of disappointed neutrals although followers of the band knew full well that this was the case.
I had thought of digging out the old memorabilia from the garage, but Tina has locked it and thrown the key away - cow!
Here are the ones I thought about last night: Bleach Beef Radical Dance FAction New Fast Automatic Daffodils Carter The Unstoppable Sex MAchine Kingmaker - trio from Hull - one of my faves Neds The Mighty Lemon Drops Freight Train Rescue Family Cat Family Gotown Surf Drums Darling Buds The Rose Hips The Moonflowers Milk The Miltown Brothers The Shop Assistants The Field Mice Cake
wtf, you've all been to a lot of great stuff! I've only gone to see Michael Crawford (original Phantom of the Opera...not in POTO but in a concert he had a few years ago), Marilyn Manson, VNV Nation, and the Neville Brothers...Aaron Neville was sick that night but it was still cool.
you have gud taste jodie.at 14 iv not seen many.busted,mcfly the usual stuff.tho i have seen meatloaf and was at edinburgh 50000.meatloaf was a laugh.hope to see some more interesting bands like mcr soon tho
Looked through the ticket stubs. Apart from A-ha (first) and Bob Geldof (most shows by one artist), these are the shows I've seen. I've left out some names you wouldn't know (local). They're in no particular order.
Teenage Fanclub, Levellers (3 times), Therapy? (5 or 6 times), Björk (2), Faith No More (2), Iggy Pop, Anthrax, Living colour, Suicidal Tendencies, Rage against the machine (twice), The wonder stuff (3 times), UK Subs, An Emotional Fish (twice), The Cramps (twice), Del Amitri (twice), Deacon Blue (4 times), Sugarcubes, The House of love (2), Christy Moore, Power of Dreams, Happy Mondays, Throwing Muses, Lemonheads (3), Carter USM (2), The Wedding Present, Goodbye Mr MecKenzie, They might be Giants (4), Midnight Oil, Morrissey, Inspiral Carpets, Ned’s Atomic Dustbin, The Farm, Les Negresses Vertes (2), The La’s, Dave Stewart (7), The Legendary Pink Dots, The Silencers (15), EMF (2), The Pogues, The Jesus and Mary Chain, The Sundays, The Mission, Paul McCartney, Simple Minds, Hothouse Flowers (2), The Pixies, Aztec Camera, Sinead O’Connor, Rolling Stones, Runrig, Fischer-Z (6), Red Hot Chili Peppers, Babes in Toyland (3), East 17, Oasis (2), Body Count, Billy Bragg, Chumbawamba, Alice Donut, SNFU, Fugazi, Mudhoney, NOFX, Bad Religion, Dinosaur Jr., Violent Femmes, Black Sabbath, GWAR, New Model Army, Fish, The Saw Doctors, Alice in Chains, The Tragically Hip, Henry Rollins, Manic Street Preachers, U2, The Frank and Walters, Prodigy, The Cardigans, Ash, Pulp, Ocean Colour Scene, Dodgy, Die Sterne, Robbie Williams, Franz Ferdinand, Blur (3), Julian Dawson.
I can't believe I'd forgotten about so many of them! Like with you Ian, this is bringing back many happy memories for me...
The list of gigs I produced earlier were ones that I had worked on as either the promoter or publicist. The list I am about to undertake is the one where I paid cash for my tickets, which I suppose does make a difference. I have left out the artists who appeared at Live 8 and Murrayfield.
Adam Ant - Live Aid Adam and the Ants - Derby Aerosmith - Birmingham Odeon The Alarm - Birmingham Odeon Big Country - Birmingham Odeon Bjork - With the Sugar Cubes - Royal COurt Liverpool Boomtown Rats - dozens and dozens of times Davie Bowie - Live Aid, Milton Keynes Bowl, NEC and guesting with Iggy Pop at Birmingham Odeon Billy Bragg - Cambridge Folk Festival Eric Clapton - NEC, Live Aid Phil Collins - Live Aid Julian Cope - Wolverhampton Civic Hall Climax Blues Band - Liberal House, Tamworth Elvis Costello - Live Aid Dexys Midnight Runners - Birmingham Hippodrome Dire Straights - Live Aid Dr. Feelgood - numerous ocassions Desmond Dekker - Burton Arts Centre Bob Dylan - NEC ELO II - Nottingham Royal Court Fairport Convention - Cropredy J. Geiles Band - twice supporting the Stones Gary Glitter - Night Out Birmingham Peter Green - Huntington Hall Steve Gibbons Band - NEC supporting The Who Steve Harley - Wolverhampton Civic Ben Harper - Worlverhampton Civic Iggy Pop - Birmingham Odeon James - Burberrys Birmingham Jesus & Mary Chain - Humming Bird, Birmingham Elton John - Live Aid Kid Creole - Birmingham Levellers - Cambridge Dubliners - Kings, Birmingham Joan Baez - Cambridge Lowden Wainwright - Cambridge Men The Couldn't Hang - Birmingham Lindisfarne - Derby Nils Lofgren - Flowerpot Derby Pogues - S****horpe and Burton Bad Manners - Derby Girls School - Derby Paul McCartney - Live Aid Meatloaf - NEC George Michael - Wembley Paul Weller and the Style Council - Birmingham Odeon Edwin Starr - loads of times Gonzales - Tamworth Assembly Rooms The Who - NEC and London
Ooops! Forgot: The Rolling Stones, Leeds and Wembly The Stranglers - Derby Assembly Rooms U2 - Derby Assembly Rooms & Wembley Del Shannon - The Mackadown, Birmingham
That's all I can remember for the time being but there is bound to be more.