Get it while you can RGTC 1978

noelindublin · Loudmouth

Get it while you can RGTC 1978

Ian D · House on Fire

Thanks for posting Noel. Nice to see Dave Lee Travis on trumpet for Rat Trap!

noelindublin · Loudmouth

It's always worth checkining YouTube, you never know what might turn up. Easiest way is to use the filter function and just check what has been added say for the last month, so that you don't need to 'plough' through all the old videos which normally have been there for ages.

Some day we may hit paydirt and find the Rats Live in Japan 1980 full concert has turned up.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

noelindublin wrote:
Just discovered the full (39 mins) Rock Goes to College has been uploaded to YouTube. No idea about the legality but it is a chance for those who have not seen it before to appreciate it. Audience could have been a bit more lively.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kafa_lTXQDo

-- Edited by noelindublin on Thursday 26th of July 2012 01:45:29 PM

Grab it for good...

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noelindublin · Loudmouth

Seeing as the Rats are not that popular it might go unnoticed. I honestly could not be bothered with all the work that goes into downloading and keeping videos. As Geoff Boycott might say I just get 'bamboozled'.

Why could they just not release this series on DVD years ago and charge a tenner. Simple solution, rather than all this disputed copyright/illegal downloading stuff. Anyway it would look better on a decent size widescreen tv screen rather than a smallish computer minotor. As the Dead Kennedys say 'Give me convenience or give me death'.

I'll just watch it a few times and commit it to memory! It is interesting to see Rat Trap performed before it got to number one. A large part of the audience do not really seem to know the songs, yet the venue seems full. Wish there were some more full concerts from this time, or indeed any time.

-- Edited by noelindublin on Friday 27th of July 2012 12:09:41 PM

noelindublin · Loudmouth

ArrGee wrote:
noelindublin wrote:
Why could they just not release this series on DVD years ago and charge a tenner. Simple solution, rather than all this disputed copyright/illegal downloading stuff.
I suppose lack of demand. Costs a lot to release and distribute a DVD. Of the three DVDs that have been officially released, the first couple seemed to sell well enough to justify a release, but On a Night Like This didn't sell at all. It was in FOPP for a couple of quid recently.
There are plenty of people who will stick the concert on a DVD for you, but all they do is copy it off a torrent.
Ultimately I would have thought it would be in a band's interest to release things officially, but they choose not to. The Geldof Cadogan Hall gig was filmed, yet never released. Pulp haven't released any of their recent tour, yet you can obtain the Reading recording fairly freely.
You just have to accept the world has moved on. Nothing tangible exists anymore...

Maybe if the whole Rock Goes To College series had been marketed on DVD say ten years ago before downloading and illegal sharing became the norm it might have worked. Possibly by coupling two acts on one DVD. Sometimes the ownership of the work is in dispute ie director, camerawork etc rather than the band. I know the world has moved on but I still think the majority of proper music fans are willing to pay for a concert DVD by their favourite acts. Of course there is a large amount of people who will be tech savvy enough and not too bothered how the get their videos/songs and will not be too familiar with the concept of paying for music.

Certainly back in the eighties and nineties concert videos sold well enough. I think part of the downturn in music DVD sales is due to the ubiquitous use of phone cameras at concerts, and uploading to YouTube. Why bother to propererly film a concert when someone in the audience with a hd camera can do a pretty good job for no cost?

-- Edited by noelindublin on Friday 27th of July 2012 01:46:51 PM

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

noelindublin wrote:
... I still think the majority of proper music fans are willing to pay for a concert DVD by their favourite acts.

If you really want to buy it...

DON'T! DON'T BUY IT ON EBAY!!!!

Find a kindly forum member who has the DVD and I'm sure they will be able to assist you in obtaining it.

-- Edited by ArrGee on Tuesday 7th of August 2012 09:20:55 PM

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

noelindublin wrote:
Why could they just not release this series on DVD years ago and charge a tenner. Simple solution, rather than all this disputed copyright/illegal downloading stuff.

I suppose lack of demand. Costs a lot to release and distribute a DVD. Of the three DVDs that have been officially released, the first couple seemed to sell well enough to justify a release, but On a Night Like This didn't sell at all. It was in FOPP for a couple of quid recently.

There are plenty of people who will stick the concert on a DVD for you, but all they do is copy it off a torrent.

Ultimately I would have thought it would be in a band's interest to release things officially, but they choose not to. The Geldof Cadogan Hall gig was filmed, yet never released. Pulp haven't released any of their recent tour, yet you can obtain the Reading recording fairly freely.

You just have to accept the world has moved on. Nothing tangible exists anymore...

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

noelindublin wrote:
release this on DVD ...

I have the RGTC DVD alongside the Whyteleafe DVD. Very good of our friend Suss to send a double DVD case smile

And they do look good on my TV biggrin

suss · In the Long Grass

Just got round to watching this, so thanks to Noel for the alert.

Was interested to note it was an upload of a BBC4 show; wish I'd known at the time. Any idea when aired anyone? Could have recorded to hard drive/DVD and circumvented need to download etc.

That said, I'd happily buy any official DVD myself if option was there, but completely agree the supply/demand ratio won't make it viable.

suss · In the Long Grass

suss wrote:
Just got round to watching this, so thanks to Noel for the alert.
Was interested to note it was an upload of a BBC4 show; wish I'd known at the time. Any idea when aired anyone? Could have recorded to hard drive/DVD and circumvented need to download etc.
That said, I'd happily buy any official DVD myself if option was there, but completely agree the supply/demand ratio won't make it viable.

Just did some straightforward research (dunno why I don't think before I write sometimes) and see this was acknowledged at time - http://theboomtownrats.blogspot.co.uk/2007/07/rock-goes-to-college-bbc-4-730pm.html

Pretty sure I didn't have a hard drive then...or even DVD recorder. VCR might have got a rare outing for that one had I known smile

noelindublin · Loudmouth

Geldof must have done his fair share of watching Mick Jagger. Some great harmonica playing on She's Gonna Do You In, and typical Geldof awareness of the cameras. Some nice asides to the audience as well. Like Clockwork was chosen as the climactic last song and Rat Trap was a number one waiting to happen, but seems to go down as just an ordinary album track, two months later I'd imagine the audience reaction might have been a bit more 'engaging' with Rat Trap top of the charts and Geldof more popular than John Travolta and ONJ.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

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