TOTP week by week through '77

Mark L · Loudmouth

TOTP week by week through '77

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

Mark, I've searched YouTube and never found it. This was the first time I ever saw the Rats (and never looked back). So I'm feeling very excited about seeing it again. It is just around my Birthday time (the original going out 2 days after my 12th), what a lovely present!

noelindublin · Loudmouth

I think there are two or three separate performances of Lookin' After No 1 from TOTP, one being the original debut edition. One can feel a bit like some sort of rock forensic scientist when trying to tell the subtle differences between performances when they appear on YouTube with no info other then the song title.

Mark L · Loudmouth

I can't find it on You Tube Jules although I'm sure it was once there; I have noticed this with other uploads, not sure why it happens. I have it on Sky since one of the TOTP performances of LAN1 was shown in the 'I love 1977' show earlier this year and it is great. It will be interesting to see it as part of the full length TOTP show for that week, complete with chart countdown and DJ intro/outro.

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

I must have missed it when it was there then. Yes, I really hope it has the chart run down (I can remember that too) and the intros etc. I will record it. This is definitely something to keep. biggrin

Mark L · Loudmouth

The show is not returning until 13/09/12 and the Rats are not listed to appear (having said that, only about 4 or 5 are and generally they show around 9/10 acts each week). I think part of the problem is that seemingly 4 shows from 1977 are missing, hence the break you can get with these reruns every now and again.

I really like the weekly shows in sequence and I desperately hope they don't change it. Over the next ten years I'm looking forward to seeing the development of modern pop music, plus the Rats' rise to glory - in real time. It would be a disaster if they changed it.

Playing the shows out of sequence, as some fear the BBC are about to do (or it will be a near-40 year run of a show!), would destroy it for me - it would ruin the development. Yes, there's a lot of junk, but that just builds anticipation for the good stuff. I have a personal rule that I never fast-forward through the songs I don't like - well ok, I've been making an exception with Showaddywaddy! It's one of the best shows on TV. 1982 one week, 1990 the next, 1978 the next and so on - I'm really not keen on - what do others think?

noelindublin · Loudmouth

I keep meaning to buy the book by ex NME writer Simon Reynolds called Retromania. I've browsed through it's contents a few times and he has lots to say for and against the constant reselling/re-branding of old music and the nostalgia industry.

I know where he's coming from, but he is a really thoughtful writer with no simple answer, but lots of interesting things to say. Maybe this should be in the Other Stuff section alongside best books about music?

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

Mark L wrote:
The show is not returning until 13/09/12 and the Rats are not listed to appear (having said that, only about 4 or 5 are and generally they show around 9/10 acts each week). I think part of the problem is that seemingly 4 shows from 1977 are missing, hence the break you can get with these reruns every now and again.
I really like the weekly shows in sequence and I desperately hope they don't change it. Over the next ten years I'm looking forward to seeing the development of modern pop music, plus the Rats' rise to glory - in real time. It would be a disaster if they changed it.

Playing the shows out of sequence, as some fear the BBC are about to do (or it will be a near-40 year run of a show!), would destroy it for me - it would ruin the development. Yes, there's a lot of junk, but that just builds anticipation for the good stuff. I have a personal rule that I never fast-forward through the songs I don't like - well ok, I've been making an exception with Showaddywaddy! It's one of the best shows on TV. 1982 one week, 1990 the next, 1978 the next and so on - I'm really not keen on - what do others think?

I was having a panic, thinking I'd missed something. Are we sure they still have the 25/8/77 show? I've been waiting for it all year biggrin confuse furious

Mark L · Loudmouth

Last night's show was about 3 or 4 weeks behind where we actually were in '77. Hence Donna Summer is still at no 1 whereas in reality Brotherhood of Man had claimed the top spot and then left it after just 1 week, followed by the Floaters with one week too at no 1 and Elvis had taken up residence for his 5 week run.

What this means is that Looking After No 1 is still to chart and so although delayed in terms of mirroring the corresponding week in '77, we haven't missed a Rats edition yet!

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

Thanks Mark. I've not watched this one yet. Have it recorded. You've made my day

Mark L · Loudmouth

Noel Edmonds will be presenting this next Thursday at 7.30pm when the Boomtown Rats debut in the top 30 with their first single Looking After No. 1

It's on BBC4 and Thin Lizzy are on too. Depressingly for some, so are the Floaters.

The programme is nearly a month behind.

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

Brilliant, thanks Mark.

suss · In the Long Grass

Clucking Bell! Forgot about this. Any good??

suss · In the Long Grass

Fingers crossed the 2.15am one 'tomorrow' is a repeat.

Mark L · Loudmouth

Good, energetic performance Suss. The repeat is the same show you missed. Actually, it seems the Rats got this slot whilst just outside the top 40, so next week I think they go up to 28...

Mark L · Loudmouth

Rats at 28 this week, but not on show apart from picture slide in countdown. Goes up to 17 next week and they should be on show again.....unless with the current Saville controversy, the BBC realise he was presenting (I don't know that he was) and pull the show. I definitely remember him introducing Like Clockwork, Rat Trap and possibly She's So Modern.

suss · In the Long Grass

Watched this last night (still haven't got round to watching recording of last week with Rats). Apart from the waves of nostalgia, never quite captured by TOTP2 due to 'latest' news subtitles etc, I was struck with amazement at just how eclectic the top 30 was in 77, and this particular week didn't even include any novelty hits. Stranglers, Jam, Costello, Rats, Davids Soul and Essex, Floaters, Yvonne Elliman...sure I saw Lisa's favourites Brotherhood of Man flash up as well.

I miss those days (apart from BOM obviously). Chart is so homogenous now. I know there are guitar bands and dare I say musicians still out there, but do they get a look in??

Also, due to Elvis inability to perform Way Down to the audience for some reason, we got a triple helping of Legs & Co last night. Used to leave me cold at the time. Another example of how times change..... wink

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

suss wrote:
I was struck with amazement at just how eclectic the top 30 was in 77...
Chart is so homogenous now. I know there are guitar bands and dare I say musicians still out there, but do they get a look in??

One of the more interesting things is how the history of Rock and Roll gets rewritten. If you read about the late seventies you would imagine it to be a time where there was nothing but punk and new wave, but the truth is the mainstream was dominated by pretty bland music. It's the same in the sixties. It wasn't The Beatles, The Stones, The Who or even The Monkees battling at the top and flooding the airwaves; you were more likely to have Tom Jones, Cliff Richard and Englebert.

The charts have always been eclectic, and the mainstream pretty bland. Looking back there are precious few great number one singles. Most are quite frankly rubbish. Take 1976 and 1977. Not one decent rock record made it to the top. It shows how much of a breakthrough Rat Trap was, because arguably, let's not consider Showaddywaddy, there hadn't been a rock single of any sort at the top since Bohemian Rhapsody.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_1970s_UK_Singles_Chart_number_ones

I wouldn't have a clue what the chart is like now. The last time I noticed the charts was back in the mid nineties when Blur, Oasis and Pulp were making their mark. I even remember people used to have an interest in the Chrismas number one, as we had a sweep and Michael Jackson won...

It did get a little interesting in the mid-2000s for second wave britpop with Franz, Razorlight, Kaiser Chiefs, Killlers and Arctic Monkeys all making the charts, but these days with no physical singles, even The Black Keys and Kasabian who are possibly two of the biggest live draws barely make the top 100. I had to look that up.

Lisa · Mondo Bongo

suss wrote:
Watched this last night (still haven't got round to watching recording of last week with Rats). Apart from the waves of nostalgia, never quite captured by TOTP2 due to 'latest' news subtitles etc, I was struck with amazement at just how eclectic the top 30 was in 77, and this particular week didn't even include any novelty hits. Stranglers, Jam, Costello, Rats, Davids Soul and Essex, Floaters, Yvonne Elliman...sure I saw Lisa's favourites Brotherhood of Man flash up as well.
I miss those days (apart from BOM obviously). Chart is so homogenous now. I know there are guitar bands and dare I say musicians still out there, but do they get a look in??
Also, due to Elvis inability to perform Way Down to the audience for some reason, we got a triple helping of Legs & Co last night. Used to leave me cold at the time. Another example of how times change.....

I thought you liked BOM too - oh no silly me, that's BOneyM isn't it? biggrin

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

suss wrote:
Also, due to Elvis inability to perform Way Down to the audience for some reason, we got a triple helping of Legs & Co last night. Used to leave me cold at the time. Another example of how times change.....

Bloody inconsiderate of him. Like The Clash, Elvis never appeared live on TOTP. Another band notable for their absence, despite composing the theme tune, are Led Zeppelin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_performers_on_Top_of_the_Pops

Mark L · Loudmouth

Change was definitely in the air by late '77. TOTP was so much more a shared experience in those days with people reviewing/commenting on it the next day at school. There were just 3 tv channels and the charts were more closely followed. I had been vaguely aware of them since around '73/'74 but by '77 I was well into them and I reckon by '79/80 I knew where most acts where and who occupied which positions and relative to the week before etc. By '82/'83 or so, I was also able to predict with some reasonable accuracy where an act would be in the chart coming up, taking into account schoolyard popularity, TOTP-boosting performances, radio plays and parent-album situation (had it been released, 2nd single from it etc etc).

It such a shame this doesn't happen anymore, but as you say, times do indeed change.

noelindublin · Loudmouth

Lisa wrote:
Just got round to watching the one with Rats' debut - what did it say on Simon's hat?? Good performance anyway. Wonder what had happened to Phil Lynott - he had a real shiner!

Great performance. Good to know that all three (0f Lookin After No 1) are preserved in the archives. If I'm not mistaken Simon's hat is a Dublin Gaelic football hat and it says 'Up Dublin'. The Dublin gaelic football colours are dark and light blue ( being a dedicated supporter of Middlesbrough FC I'm not too well up on these things!) but know enough to be pretty certain that is what the paper hat says. I did freeze frame and enlarge the screen to be extra certain.

Back in the seventies these sort of crepe paper hats were what people wore and the Dublin gaelic football team was emerging as a successful county after years of not achieving much, or indeed anything.

Glad to see there is another 'Noel' fan, Mr Edmonds and hope he hasn't pricked himself with all those Rats badges. Is he being sarcastic about 'social commentary?'Hard to say. Finally the performance is distinctive enough not be mix it up with the others of the same song on TOTP. Now we can be certain this is the original August '77 debut.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn5vbbQaPEI

-- Edited by noelindublin on Thursday 11th of October 2012 01:44:23 PM

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Lot of interest in this episode.

http://z6.invisionfree.com/popscene/index.php?showtopic=13172

And some, ahem, praise for the Rats!

http://z6.invisionfree.com/popscene/index.php?showtopic=8229

Lisa · Mondo Bongo

Just got round to watching the one with Rats' debut - what did it say on Simon's hat?? Good performance anyway. Wonder what had happened to Phil Lynott - he had a real shiner!

Mark L · Loudmouth

Another TOTP performance of Lookin' after No 1 coming up tomorrow at 7.30pm on BBC4. Dave Lee Travis also presents Hank the Knife & the Jets, the Stranglers, Baccara, Stardust, La Belle Epoque, Leo Sayer, Meri Wilson and a Legs & Co dance sequence.

Mark L · Loudmouth

This turned out to be the same performance that Noel Edmonds introduced a few weeks ago, edited in after the DLT intro (here are the Boomtown Rats looking for number one with lookin' after number one).

Position 11 in this week's episode

Mary of the Form coming later in the autumn of course (pretty sure we may lose an edition due to the Savile affair)

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Mark L wrote:
This turned out to be the same performance that Noel Edmonds introduced a few weeks ago, edited in after the DLT intro (here are the Boomtown Rats looking for number one with lookin' after number one).
Position 11 in this week's episode
Mary of the Form coming later in the autumn of course (pretty sure we may lose an edition due to the Savile affair)

They'll do well to have any episodes of TOTP broadcast if they only show the ones with reputable DJs and pop stars. There are plenty of skeletons rattling. By the time they are done, it could be near impossible to show much except Cliff Richard from the sixties and seventies.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

I think this is the full list of appearances. So a little while to wait for the next one.

SONG	DATE	DJ
Looking After No.1	25 August 1977	Noel Edmonds
Looking After No.1 (Repeat)	22 September 1977	Dave Lee Travis
Mary Of The Fourth Form	17 November 1977
Mary Of The Fourth Form	01 December 1977
She's So Modern	06 April 1978
She's So Modern	20 April 1978
She's So Modern	04 May 1978
Like Clockwork	15 June 1978
Like Clockwork	29 June 1978
Like Clockwork	13 July 1978
Rat Trap	05 October 1978
Rat Trap	26 October 1978
Rat Trap	09 November 1978
Rat Trap	16 November 1978
Rat Trap	23 November 1978
I Don't Like Mondays (Video)	19 July 1979
I Don't Like Mondays (Video)	26 July 1979
I Don't Like Mondays (Video)	02 August 1979
I Don't Like Mondays (Video)	09 August 1979
Diamond Smiles (Video)	22 November 1979
I Don't Like Mondays (Video)	27 December 1979
Someone's Looking At You	24 January 1980
Someone's Looking At You	07 February 1980
Banana Republic	20 November 1980
Banana Republic	04 December 1980
Banana Republic	01 January 1981
House On Fire	25 March 1982
House On Fire	08 April 1982

From http://www.cyberspace7.btinternet.co.uk/shessototp.htm

-- Edited by ArrGee on Wednesday 24th of October 2012 02:47:05 PM

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

Didn't the Rats do another performance a little bit later (maybe around this time of year) (memory might be playing tricks) - LANO. I think Peter Powell introduced it, but such a long time ago... I don't think it was Saville? Hopefully.

Mark L · Loudmouth

Pretty sure Savile introduced them doing Mary of the 4th Form (which, depressingly, would have been some way up his street) and so it is this episode I suspect will come under the axe. Arrgee is dead right, though, and if you strip away every other episode/show where there may be 'sensitivities' involved, we are going to have to wipe away much of the '70s and some of the '80s. Many used to chuckle, rightly or wrongly, at Love thy Neighbour, Alf Garnett, drool over Legs and Co, enjoy Benny Hill and Mind your Language and the list goes on. It's a phrase often being banded about at the moment in the light of the Savile scandal, but it's true that we were such a different country at the time and it's hard not to be a product of your times and history. Clearly, the line was crossed by many in a deplorable way, even for those times, but it's also true that in certain ways the line has moved over the last 30 or 40 years in a way probably not very imaginable back then. The 'line' for instance seemed not in the same place for a certain guitarist I think I recall from a top band, who seemingly started a relationship with someone many years his junior, as it would have been today. This moral 'line' is hard to pin down too. Back in '83 Relax was banned, but that would be less thinkable now, yet teenagers routinely access now the kind of images that would have involved a lot of discreet postage and package from the Netherlands in the '80s, and a court appearance if you couldn't get it past Customs. With X Factor and suggestive clothing and magazines, aimed at teenagers, it's no wonder the moral compass is spinning round with some having no idea which way it should point.

I think 'Clockwork' was also introduced by Savile so that will probably go next year and I think because of the scale of this, it's probably right, but as I say, so much else is at risk if further down the scale, the axe falls too.

-- Edited by Mark L on Thursday 25th of October 2012 12:28:08 AM

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Mark L wrote:
... Many used to chuckle, rightly or wrongly, at Love thy Neighbour, Alf Garnett, drool over Legs and Co, enjoy Benny Hill and Mind your Language and the list goes on.

The stupid thing about Death us do Part is that some people don't get the point. Alf Garnett is a figure of ridicule. They even cast Warren Mitchell, a Jewish socialist, as Garnett, the C0ckney tory. When I see old episodes, I think the show stands up very well and is quite clever showing that Garnett always gets what's coming to him. I would say it is the best sit com of the sixties and early seventies. At the time no one complained of the racism, just the bad language. There is racism in there but generally Garnett's wife, daughter, son-in-law and others point out the absurdity in his rhetoric. Hell, it even insipred a massive hit for The Monkees. IMHO their finest moment.

As for the others, they were simply rubbish and you haven't even touched on On The Buses.

-- Edited by ArrGee on Thursday 25th of October 2012 08:55:19 AM

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Mark L wrote:
Pretty sure Savile introduced them doing Mary of the 4th Form...
...The 'line' for instance seemed not in the same place for a certain guitarist I think I recall from a top band, who seemingly started a relationship with someone many years his junior, as it would have been today.
...so much else is at risk if further down the scale, the axe falls too.

Yes, he did.

http://www.45cat.com/45_list_view_track.php?li=102

They'll never show that.

If they start axing then we won't see The Stones nor The Who again. Bye bye Chuck Berry and Jerry Lee Lewis.

Still we can look forward to seeing loads of Michael Jackson. He is totally absolved.

Mark L · Loudmouth

ArrGee wrote:
As for the others, they were simply rubbish and you haven't even touched on On The Buses.

Oh that came to mind Arrgee, along with others, hence the 'list goes on' phraseology! None of them masterpieces by any stretch and always thought, on balance, BBC did comedy better than ITV. The current 'vintage' channels are testimony to some extent, with Fools and Horses, Yes Minister, Fawlty Towers and many others all Aunty productions. Re the Garnett comments, this is true I think of Basil Fawlty. His absurdly funny mock Hitler routine was in a similar vein and like Alf, always got was coming to him.

Re TOTP reruns, good link and I thought he'd presented them once. The performance is on You Tube however, minus Savile.

Mark L · Loudmouth

Last night's TOTP rerun was axed due to DLT's arrest.

This means there is virtually no chance of seeing the Rats perform Mary of the 4th Form, since the two performances concerned were introduced by Dave and Savile.

Still, at least we will be saved from every single showing of Mull of Kintyre.

1-12-77: Presenter: Dave Lee Travis

(3) STATUS QUO Rockin All Over The World (and charts)
(20) THE BOOMTOWN RATS Mary Of The 4th Form
(8) RUBY WINTERS I Will (video)
(18) ELVIS COSTELLO Watching The Detectives ®
(27) DIANA ROSS Getting Ready For Love (danced to by Legs & Co)
(21) THE DOOLEYS Love Of My Life
(45) JOHN OTWAY & WILD WILLY BARRETT Really Free
(29) CRYSTAL GAYLE Dont It Make My Brown Eyes Blue (video)
(9) BRIGHOUSE & RASTRICK BRASS BAND The Floral Dance ®
(46) CARL DOUGLAS Run Back
(1) WINGS Mull Of Kintyre (video)
(2) QUEEN We Are The Champions (and credits)

....and if the show is still airing next April, we can look forward to 3 performances of She's So Modern, with Noel Edmunds, Kid Jensen and Peter Powell introducing.

One hopes.

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

It will probably be taken off by then. The whole lot of them will be arrested the way it is going!!!

Mark L · Loudmouth

Mary of the 4th Form at 23 in this week's Kid Jensen-presented show, but not played.

suss · In the Long Grass

New Year brings a new year. BBC4 are airing a 'summary' of 78 at 9pm on Fri 4th Jan, followed at 9.50 by an hour long selection of biggest 1978 hits, including Rats.

Chance to relive a pretty good year, although I think 79 just pipped it for me overall (in no small part due to my age at the time I appreciate, as well as some timeless pop artistry).

Mark L · Loudmouth

Thanks Suss - Sky'd this now.

1979 egdes it for me too. Hope the reruns still going next year. Shame some shows will not air for reasons already well publicised.

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

Are they continuing with reruns or just doing bits and pieces now?

suss · In the Long Grass

No idea Jules, but with all the furore and editing that would be required it's highly likely they will just cobble highlights shows like these I suppose.

Initial impression on tonight's offerings - first show was interesting and great to see Pete Briquette feature heavily and getting a say for once. Rats seemed to get more than their share of show, no complaints there. Some good obsevations from the contributors I felt...punk and new wave were grudgingly included by the producers, but overall format of ToTP survived as it ever was.

The second show, just winding up as I write, has been a huge disappointment to me. Seemed an uninspired selection of songs and overall a bit dull, with one or two notable exceptions. Glasses are obviously rose tinted. Anyone think the same?

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

suss wrote:
...first show was interesting and great to see Pete Briquette feature heavily and getting a say for once. Rats seemed to get more than their share of show, no complaints there.
The second show, just winding up as I write, has been a huge disappointment to me. Seemed an uninspired selection of songs and overall a bit dull, with one or two notable exceptions. Glasses are obviously rose tinted. Anyone think the same?

No complaints at all. Pete's comments on the NME interview were interesting. Also their part in toppling Grease was given full credit and no mention at all of Rod Stewart's I'm Too Sexy song. No mention of Cars or PiL, nothing on Gerry Rafferty's Baker Street and a very fleeting nod to the Jam.

Fifty fifty, some good stuff, but too much dross. And they cut Rat Trap short . Not really sure why ELO were shown on film, should have been just those who turned up. I have to say, that Mr. Blue Sky is total utter sh!te. Even Mrs. ArrGee was in full agreement with that. It's like a second rate post Beatles McCartney track. And as for Boney M. FFS.

Mark L · Loudmouth

Yep, same here, no complaints, apart from Rat Trap being cut off after final 'Caught!' However, considering Airport by the Motors was savaged before it's brilliant piano mid-piece, can't say too much. And yes, good to see Pete who spoke well. Boney M and Brotherhood of Man had to be endured to get over the clash of tatstes that semed to define '78 I suppose. Interesting too to see DLT feature here and there, a sign maybe that the powers that be at the Beeb are not too worried about him now.

As far as I know the entire shows of '78 are due to be shown as last year, with the 'Savile and others' exception being applied as seen fit.

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Mark L wrote:
... and Brotherhood of Man had to be endured to get over the clash of tastes that semed to define '78

They were Abba without the glamour and the songs. They won eurovision, so seeing Abba released Fernando, they must have though you know what we could do that, hence Angelo, and then having seen that work, they did Figaro...

Mark L · Loudmouth

It's hard to know whether you're listening to/enduring Angelo or Figaro when the record's playing. Virtually identical twins.

Like these:

George Harrison - My Sweet Lord / The Chiffons - He's so fine

Wizzard - Angel Fingers / Marie Osmond - Paper Roses

Barry Manilow - Can't smile without you / Wham! - Last Christmas

Tears for Fears - Mad World / Cat Stevens - Matthew and son

Lisa · Mondo Bongo

Mark L wrote:
It's hard to know whether you're listening to/enduring Angelo or Figaro when the record's playing. Virtually identical twins.
Like these:
George Harrison - My Sweet Lord / The Chiffons - He's so fine
Wizzard - Angel Fingers / Marie Osmond - Paper Roses
Barry Manilow - Can't smile without you / Wham! - Last Christmas
Tears for Fears - Mad World / Cat Stevens - Matthew and son

Angelo is much better smile

noelindublin · Loudmouth

ArrGee wrote:
Mark L wrote:
... and Brotherhood of Man had to be endured to get over the clash of tastes that semed to define '78
They were Abba without the glamour and the songs. They won eurovision, so seeing Abba released Fernando, they must have though you know what we could do that, hence Angelo, and then having seen that work, they did Figaro...

Was watching a box set of The Mighty Boosh at the weekend and was very amused at "Vince Noir "introducing one of his potential hot new bands as "the indie Abba" lol. There's also a line from Alan Partridge introducing a Wings record...."Wings, the band the Beatles could have been..."

Lisa · Mondo Bongo

Have fast forwarded to watch Rat Trap - I have to say Bob did look very cute back in the day didn't he? Well they all did really

However, not sure he has aged as well as Simon and Garry who still look very good!

But not found the time to watch Figaro yet, so will save that for another time - can't wait!!

Mark L · Loudmouth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MmNgscSRI8&feature=player_embedded#t=551s

Good edition, fronted by Sir Jimmy Savile and therefore not shown in last year's reruns.

This certainly is an odd musical melange and the presenter really seems to be relaxed and enjoying himself, for some reason wearing army trousers and a bright red jumper emblazoned with the word 'Peace'. If only it were that easy.

At the time I remembered seeing them do The Floral Dance song on Dad's Army so I knew the tune and it's great to see a brass band on TOTP but we all know where this was leading - Our Terry's version which is best not commented on.

The Rats are on second and move from finger pointing to ruler waving. Audience participation aplenty. Mary Of The Fourth Form is a cracking song, well filmed here by those hand held cameras which seemed to be reserved for the band's performances in their early days.

Turn To Stone is a great song about loneliness . A great song maybe but very difficult to dance to and perhaps it was wise to fade it early.

The Dooleys still remind me of The Human League - tall bloke with an odd haircut, two ladies making shapes and a bland band behind. Great pop-disco piece though.

Heroes gets a playout despite being one place lower than Bowie's showing a fortnight earlier. One the producers obviously liked.