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"...we were never accepted by the cultural Taliban in the UK. It always drove us nuts that people said Joe Strummer and the Clash were the real thing. I mean, all that political left/right thing was over by the mid-70s, and what would Joe, the son of a diplomat, have known about it anyway? "
Roberts gets a word in. "I agree with everything Bob just said", he laughs.
-- Edited by ArrGee on Monday 25th of February 2013 10:56:05 AM
So if to be believed then Dublin won't stage a gig anytime soon, or any other city there.
Also found myself questioning how Banana Republic was more controversial than Mondays; maybe in Ireland it was. Noel?
No others announced, but nothing to stop them doing another. Don't believe Marquee gig is an exclusive like iow. Longitude to be announced this week, and that's a possible. Probably promoters have a moratorium on announcements. could be a while before next UK/Ireland gig is scheduled.
I'm rapidly coming to conclusion it would be good to know all the options for this year. Could pick and choose on an informed basis then
It would help, but if you believe what you read on here pretty much anyone with an interest in The Rats or Geldof is making plans to attend one of the two gigs announced this side of the equator. Pulp only announced their Brixton dates after playing Hyde Park as they knew people would prefer the former but wanted people in a field for the first one.
I wouldn't bet against a US date (or two) being announced soon. Also with three big Irish festivals this year, there is every chance at least one of them will want the Rats.
A UK summer date is probably the least likely announcement at the moment, but there is every chance of something later in the year, quite possibly post Isle of Wight.
So if to be believed then Dublin won't stage a gig anytime soon, or any other city there.
Also found myself questioning how Banana Republic was more controversial than Mondays; maybe in Ireland it was. Noel?
It certainly was played a lot on the radio. I can still remember the first few times I heard it, the famous intro, and thinking it was very different but it was still the Boomtown Rats. The songs themes are well known, and lots of people did and still do think it summed up an Ireland in 1980.
Looking back it was a scary time. The Hunger strikes in 1981 was pretty bleak, and all you saw was constant death and destruction in the North. Geldof was writing about the ambiguity towards violence shown by many in the south of Ireland eg heroes going cheap these days, the Irish national anthem a Soldiers Song "begs too many questions, and answers too...". The Rats on the dvd extra are shown flying into Ireland on a Cessna May 1980 after Mondays had being a big hit. The next song about their experiences in Ireland was Banana Republic, after High Court cases, and a riot at the Leixlip Castle gig.
Both songs were against violence and making heroes of killers, if that's controversial then so be it. l Banana Republic was more relevant for Ireland, but I don't remember mass debates on the radio or anything. Equally lots of people preferred their folk music and thought the Rats were crap and Geldof was a loud mouthed git.
-- Edited by noelindublin on Tuesday 26th of February 2013 02:52:11 PM
It took some time for the story behind Mondays to surface - most people at my school/family friends etc initially took it to be hating the first day of the week after an enjoyable week-end. Banana Republic was more instantly and obviously an attack on Ireland and also hit home more due to the big change in their style of music. In the long run, both were controversial I would say to a similar extent in their own way. They are both exceptional songs and it is certainly easy with repeated plays over the years to lose track of what a superbly written and played tune Mondays is. I am sure it won an Ivor Novello and was best pop song at the 1980 Brit Pop equivalent event?
The opening chords still really send a chill down my spine when it comes on the radio unexpectedly.
