Saturday 9th November 2013 - Fat Sam's, Dundee, UK

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Saturday 9th November 2013 - Fat Sam's, Dundee, UK

Scottie · Loudmouth

I emailed the promoter yesterday and it is still on, even though not on FS new website. Says it will be shortly.

manatthetop · In the Long Grass

Don't get the rats playing here? If it should be anywhere in Scotland it should be Glasgow

suss · In the Long Grass

Well they are doing Glasgow, or did you mean it should only be Glasgow?

manatthetop · In the Long Grass

Yeah Big man that's what I am on about They only played two gigs in Ireland on this round Dublin and Belfast. But he did point out in the Belfast gig that they did love playing Soctland

Scottie · Loudmouth

Glasgow, Dundee and Aberdeen. Bob has not played Scotland solo for 8 years. We deserve more than 1 on this tour. Last time Perth 2005, where I first saw him sing solo and Rats stuff. Dundee and Aberdeen are selling well I believe. Got an email from Fat Sams saying they are still rebuilding the website it is def on. Hoping my treatment will finish next week, so I can maybe do both D and A.. For years, I have travelled round England at my own considerable expense, so he is due me one, or two, or three. I have also been nagging him for a while. They have done 3 Irish, in N and S, Cork and Dublin and Belfast. So we are QUITS!!!!!

Lisa · Mondo Bongo

Well I'm a bit miffed actually that they didn't do any gigs in Hampshire ...

Lisa · Mondo Bongo

OK they did do that little one on the Isle of Wight - but then again that was overseas!

manatthetop · In the Long Grass

Ok Scottie. Have to agree with you,but the cork gig was not of this round of touring But who cares anyway as long as they are all doing something to together again

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Do You Remember The Last Time?

http://www.retrodundee.blogspot.co.uk/2009/10/boomtown-rats-caird-hall-1979.html BOOMTOWN+RATS.jpg

Mark L · Loudmouth

Good link. Interesting to read the Dundonians recollections of the Rats in '79.

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

Can you actually see anything from row L in the balcony

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Mark L · Loudmouth

The backs of heads in row K?!

Scottie · Loudmouth

Confusion over times, ticket displaying one time and Fat Sams saying another, much later. Will try to find out.

GarTH · Lookin' After Number 1

Just saw the 'Rats' play Dundee last night and they were incredible! So glad we got this chance after being a fan all these years. My wife nearly got to see them in '79 but wasn't allowed as she was only 12 then

Possibly the reason they played Dundee was because the replacement guitarist, who is a great choice I have to say, is a Dundonian? They seemed to genuinely love Dundee and had a great time here, so I like to think that's why they chose to come here.

Scottie · Loudmouth

I was deaf for a couple of hours after. Very loud in a smallish venue. Great audience, bouncing, dancing, even did a bit myself. (both). Bob did really well despite having hardly any voice left. Enjoyed seeing Suss doing his disco dancing lol. Set was the same as others. No new ones. One thing I did find out is that Garry Smon and Darren will not play as the Rats any more. After this, there will be no point. People will see it advertised and think it is the whole band. No idea what is next.

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

If Garry and Simon aren't in it, it will be Bob solo doing the Rats. Weird.

Scottie · Loudmouth

No, I meant they will not tour as the new Rats, as they have been doing for the last couple of years. It will be the full group or nothing. As well as Bob solo of course. He has 2 dates booked, so far, India and Dubai

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

Couple of years? It's about 7 months isn't it. People can change their minds, Bob was 'never' going to do it. We will just have to wait and see and hope. Solo is great but not Dubai and India please. Maybe we will get some German dates though.

Scottie · Loudmouth

The way of thinking is that if people see The Boomtown rats advertised , how will they tell the difference between the full band and the newer Rat?

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

It's like many bands or reunite or members leave and new ones take their place, they are the same band at their core. Look at Fleetwood Mac, they've been through all sorts of members. I believe there is band which has no original members but still plays uner the original members (name escapes me). Thin Lizzy also had various guitarists. Queen are still going without Freddie.

These Rats don't know what they're talking about

. They are onto something brilliant and want to throw it away, idiots

lol. One more tour next year, whilst they are doing well and see how it goes again. Maybe dates more spread out might be better for the voice and keep them from being vulnerable to colds and throat infections lol.

Scottie · Loudmouth

Don't think I am explaining it right. If the Boomtown Rats tour again, Garry, Darren and Simon of course will be in the band. But they wont tour as the new Rats, without Pete and Bob. . That group seems to be dead in the water.

Scottie · Loudmouth

By new I mean Garry and Simon's band, as opposed to original,

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

Oh I see, it might be me being thick lol. No possibly not. A shame in many ways, but understandable.

Scottie · Loudmouth

smile

ArrGee · Back To Boomtown

Scottie wrote:
One thing I did find out is that Garry, Simon and Darren will not play as the Rats any more. After this, there will be no point.

I would disagree that there is no point. From 2008 - 2012, I saw them four times, had some great nights out and made new friends to boot. I don't really care who the singer is, these songs should be played live and even before Bobby Boomtown returned, they were a superb live band.

That said, the audiences never really grew over the four years and after the Blackheath gig about twelve months ago I thought that was the end.

Shame if it is all over for the Rats.

Scottie · Loudmouth

I can see where they are coming from. After this tour people would expect to see Bob as frontman. Don't know how they could advertise as the Boomtown Rats any more.

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

Yes, I kind of feel sad for them. Just hope they go on with the full line up for a while longer, even if they don't do full tours and appearances are more sporadic. But I hope they do tour again.

suss · In the Long Grass

GarTH wrote:
Possibly the reason they played Dundee was because the replacement guitarist, who is a great choice I have to say, is a Dundonian?

Afraid that was Geldof's running joke. Darren was variously introduced as Bristolian, from Nottingham, a Geordie etc etc etc, and last night he was from Aberdeen smile

Did the trick though as it usually got the biggest cheer.

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

I only heard him do that it Bristol. Darren was shaking his head and I was wondering what he was going on about

. Now I understand. Darren deserves a huge cheer. So does Alan, he seems to get lost in the back there, sometimes in a puff of smoke.

suss · In the Long Grass

Scottie wrote:
Enjoyed seeing Suss doing his disco dancing lol.

Some really hospitable local fella in the Wetherspoons saw I was drinking red wine and not content with buying me a glass came back with a second bottle for me. I wasn't dancing - it was just my legs giving way on a highly frequent basis.

Scottie · Loudmouth

Darren is from Cardiff, or at least his band is, and his girlfriend has either had a baby or expecting one very soon. Says he has responsibilities now.

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

Darren is from Cardiff, he told us that when we chatted to him at Wes' party.

noelindublin · Loudmouth

Jules wrote:
Darren is from Cardiff, he told us that when we chatted to him at Wes' party.

He was in a band called The Caves, who come from Swansea. Maybe Darren is from Cardiff,as he is a football fan and would hardly say he was from Swansea if he was from the Welsh capital??

Interesting to have Irish ,English and Welsh Rats, no we just need a Scot. smile

Jules · The biggest Geldof fan in the world, bar none!

Maybe the saxophonist, whose name we can't find, is a Scot

suss · In the Long Grass

Saxophonist was a guy called Aaron Liddard - see http://www.aaronliddard.com/

Not sure of his origins though smile

Also not sure about Darren being from Cardiff!

suss · In the Long Grass

Venue - for the scrapbook