The Eden Project is just like the real world, only smaller...

My impression of the Eden Project is that it is a biosphere representing the major climates of earth; however, as you have pointed out (or seems to be the gist of your posting), the Eden Project is supported by many conglomerates we have come to distrust if not hate--again, this has happened in our world too, with dictatorships supported by conglomerates or mafias of sorts. It's not an all-bad world and its not an all-bad Eden Project. I kind of like the Eden Project idea myself as a way of helping to appreciate the earth but it takes conglomerate money to sustain it because unluckily good intentions and individual donations are not quite sufficient to keep it going.

PS: December 4 your link worked but right now it's not...hmm..is it my computer or is the link not operating??

Cheers!and I like your avatar.

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Green Tourism? I would say it was going to an aquarium or a zoo, perhaps even a hands-on type of wildlife exhibit, where one quietly observes the habitat, be it already in existence, such as Cornwall's countryside, or the Eden Project, or in my own case, going to help clean up a local river on Earth Day April 22 in an area I don't normally frequent (making me a tourist for the day, so to speak).

Did your group try to stop the Eden Project and fail?Did Cornwall take a vote on this?

How does the Eden Project impact your daily life? assuming you are in Cornwall countryside and not another large city far away, or even Sicily?

Best regards, your friend Mo. PS BTW, I'm a green but we in the US are not very active, as you undoubtedly realize...one of my friends was recently appalled to see conglomerate store Wal-Mart selling Greenpeace calendars 2006. Now those are strange bedfellows!!

I think it's wise to know as much as possible about fake charities and misuses of nature; but unfortunately a certain amount of intermingling is inevitable.

As far as Live 8 money is concerned, I'm sure some conglomerates got some but some well-deserving people did, too; and it made a lot of fans happy, brought people to think of Africa.

Like you, I share a love and concern for our environment, as do the forum readers and Bob Geldof. A lot of people ARE trying to help stop pollution. I think a place like the Eden Project makes the public aware of how precious our planet is. I know you are trying to point out the hypocrites of the environmental movement.

Even in Greece, the "old" part of the city is going to be closed to vehicles, in an effort to curb pollution there.

Fiddling while Rome burns was not the intention of Live8 or Africa Calling.

Do you know the song by Midnight Oil, "Beds Are Burning"? An oldie but goodie with painful lyrics. I hope you have faith in the future and continue.

Write back soon!!

"The universe is a big place, perhaps the biggest."  K.T.

Well, T.K. (Team Kernow), this forum already discussed the first subject of your most recent post, that of Sir Bob getting paid for speaking, back in July. Whilst I'd love to see him speaking for free out of the goodness of his heart, the only people I know who do this are Native American spiritual leaders.

We don't live in a perfect world but we can try to make it better little by little.

The idea of political parties? It would be nice not to have any but people like to have a little organization, it seems, so there you are: Conservatives, Tories, Liberals, Greens, et al. Sir Bob doesn't really fit any party description. That's what we like about him!

Say hey, TK!!

I say let Sir Bob make a few quid, he's Irish, and he really believes in his mission!

That's an interesting list, however. I would not expect Ms Roddick of the "Body Shop" environmental organization to make so much, either. Or Jane Goodall. I admire each of those ladies and their causes. If they make money from speaking, I believe they give back spiritually to the world, as does Sir Bob.

Unfortunately, society uses money as a yardstick to determine the worthiness of something, alas.

Sorry you are so anti-Bob. Perhaps if you continue with our fourm, you will see some of his worthiness. I believe he is truly committed to the idea of dropping the debt of African nations who cannot pay.

Plus, he's a great entertainer!!!!!

The Eden Project was selected as the venue for Africa Calling. Peter Gabriel & Youssou N'dour organised Africa Calling in order to include African groups in the Live8 sphere, since Live8 was concerned with raising awareness about the plight of Africa. WOMAD (Worldd of Music & Dance) had used the Eden Project as a venue, and Peter Gabriel is involved in WOMAD, so it was a natural place to put Africa Calling, using many of the WOMAD artists. It was done quickly so as to occur at the same time as Live8. This is just a brief synopsis.

Somehow this thread has turned into a discussion of the Eden Project, and then has meandered into a discussion of Live 8, and thence somehow to arms dealers.

Where's the music, TK???

I think it's a good idea for arms dealers and other types of that ilk to stay out of music; however, it's JUST POSSIBLE they could be won over to drop their guns, just by association with people like Peter Gabriel or Sir Bob or Bono. They don't have to espouse one another's views; but don't you think, since it's a 2-way street, the good people of the world can influence the bad ones? A little yin, a little yang, spice up the mix.

Don't be so negative! Keep on playing devil's advocate, the world needs people like that; but I hope you cheer up...or get a job where you can help others to help the planet!